Why Interest Rates Aren’t What They Used to Be

by Kris Sayce on 7 April 2010

This morning we’re still awaiting the first directive from the Supreme Population Tsar. Until such a directive arrives we suggest you procreate, live or die at your own risk. Just be warned that it could be made illegal to die if your death puts in endanger the grand population strategy.

Maybe they’ll call it a Five-Year Plan. Once you’re on the path of socialism you may as well go the whole way, comrades.

UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown has called a general election. Unless we’re mistaken, it’ll be the first-post stimulus election for an incumbent leader of a major economy – Obama’s election doesn’t count as Dubbya was prevented from contesting a third election.

As for the UK election. We’re not sure it matters who wins, whether it’s Labour, the Tories, or a hung parliament. As far as we can see, it’ll be the same muck just a different spreader.

And finally, before we get on to today’s Money Morning, we did have a little chuckle at the misprint in today’s online edition of The Age. It seems that even in retirement, Malcolm Turnbull is having trouble getting his global warming message across:

Malcolm Turnbull having trouble getting his global warming message across

The Age later corrected their mistake to read “Threat of global warming remains.” Bless!

Then again, we’ve long suspected the global warming fear campaign is seen as a treat for those in the public service that get to spend all the expropriated tax dollars.

But today we’ll take a look at interest rates. Before we do, one thing struck us as we flicked through the Australian Financial Review (AFR) this morning.

It was the table illustrating the effect of the “Loan hikes.” In English it means how much your monthly mortgage payments will increase thanks to the Reserve Bank of Australia’s (RBA) 0.25% rate rise.

The thing that struck us was the loan examples used. We’re sure it wasn’t so long ago they used numbers such as $100,000, $200,000, $300,000 and $500,000.

Not anymore. Today it’s $250,000 as a minimum. Followed by $500,000, $750,000 and to top it off a whopping $1 million.

But who knows, maybe it’s been like that for some time and we’ve never noticed. But then again it’s hardly surprising when the median home price in Sydney is over $600,000.

Anyway, back to interest rates.

Quite frankly, the new attitude towards interest rates is perhaps the most troubling of all the issues facing the Australian and international economies.

This quote from an article in today’s Sydney Morning Herald (SMH) pretty much sums it up:

“The marketplace is driven by supply and demand. It’s not driven by interest rates.”

That’s according to Wayne Stewart of the Real Estate Institute of New South Wales. Naturally he doesn’t stop there:

“The greatest problem that we’re facing is the shortage of property. It’s an absolute crisis.”

Heard that one before. We think Urban Taskforce Australia chief executive Aaron Gadiel agrees. He says:

“Each interest rate rise is tantamount to a game of Russian roulette with Australia’s housing supply…”

More like a game of Russian roulette with the first home buyers who were bribed into the housing market on the back of record high property prices and record cheap money. Except in this bizarre game it’s the RBA and government aiming the gun at the heads of first home buyers rather than the buyers doing it themselves – load, aim, fire!

But here’s the main problem with interest rates. And it’s got nothing directly to do with the housing market.

The real problem is the attitude of market participants towards interest rates. It’s summed up perfectly by Mr. Stewart’s comment above. In a nutshell, what he’s saying is that interest rates aren’t that important. Of course, he does say in the same article that “There are people where any increase puts them on the breadline.”

But that plays second fiddle to the furphy about a housing shortage.

It’s the old story about central banks artificially manipulating the economy by fiddling around with interest rates.

But let’s get back to basics. What’s so important about interest rates? The obvious answer is that interest rates represent the price of money. A low interest rate means money is cheap. A high interest rate means money is expensive.

A low interest rate means that saving is discouraged as the returns are low, therefore individuals will look for higher returns elsewhere or they will spend.

A high interest rate means that saving is encouraged as the returns are high. Therefore individuals may not invest elsewhere, and they’ll be less inclined to spend.

That’s all fairly straightforward. But aside from that, interest rates have another function other than just how cheap or expensive money is. Interest rates provide the market with a signal.

As Mr. Stewart above mentions, “The marketplace is driven by supply and demand.” He’s right. In this case interest rates are the supply and demand indicator for money. You can’t ignore this.

Yet, the manipulation of the interest rate and the misunderstanding of interest rates across the mainstream has turned the interest rate indicator upside down.

Whichever way interest rates move it’s seen by the mainstream commentators and analysts as being a positive sign for the entire economy. Or that there’s only one response to both high and low interest rates – spend money NOW!

That’s not the way it should be.

If you can imagine a world without the meddling of megalomaniacal central bankers, the setting of interest rates would be determined by all market participants. Sounds weird doesn’t it? That a market could determine a price level without the interference of a public service mandarin.

But interest rates are no different to how anything else is priced. In most cases in an economy prices are determined by the free market. A can of Coke Zero at the milk bar across the road from here costs $2.40 or $2.50 (depending on whether we’re served by the husband or the wife apparently!)

Yet up the road, a Coke Zero only costs $1.30 at the local IGA.

As far as we’re aware, there isn’t a Coke Zero Tsar employed by the government to set the price of Coke Zero across the country. As strange as it seems, the market is able to set prices for itself. Some prices for similar goods are cheaper than others.

While we’re on the subject, isn’t it amazing how the free market makes goods available without a command from the government? We’re not forced to buy Coke Zero, yet we choose to. The milk bar or supermarket takes a risk on there being a demand for Coke Zero and therefore stocks it in anticipation.

It doesn’t need the government to legislate the supply of Coke Zero or any other consumer product. The free market determines it. Yet when governments get involved, suddenly the market doesn’t function properly – look at the former Soviet Union or Cuba as a perfect example.

Anyway, some days we can’t be bothered making a 10 minute roundtrip walk to the IGA so we make the two minute roundtrip walk to the milkbar instead. The extra $1.10 (or $1.20) that we spend is the cost of the convenience of drinking the Coke Zero 8 minutes sooner than if we’d gone to the IGA.

That’s how markets work. Why should the cost of money be any different? Of course, in some respects it isn’t. Different banks may charge a slightly different rate for a mortgage or a business loan, but the fact remains that the basis for their lending rates is determined by the rate set by the RBA.

Now, you could argue that the rate the IGA or milkbar charges for a can of Coke Zero is determined by the wholesale rate charged by Coca Cola, but the difference is that Coca Cola doesn’t have a monopoly on soft drinks in Australia whereas the RBA does have a monopoly on interest rates in Australia.

Anyway, sorry for the digression. In a free market, the function of the rate of interest is to provide a signal to market participants (you, me and the other 22 million people) that would let them know whether they should be saving or spending.

If businesses wanted to invest in capital goods for instance, they would seek a loan from a bank. If the bank didn’t have enough reserves to lend then it would need to attract more deposits. It would do this by increasing interest rates.

This would encourage individuals to save rather than spend. Or it would encourage them to save in a bank rather than take bigger investing risks elsewhere, such as in the stock market. For the business that needed to borrow to invest in capital goods it could mean that the rate of interest it’ll pay is higher than anticipated and therefore the business owner would need to decide if the higher cost of money still makes the investment in capital worthwhile.

If there is a lower demand from businesses to borrow money then banks would lower the rate of interest they pay savers as the bank doesn’t need to attract more deposits. It wouldn’t want to pay 5% to savers when it was only receiving 3% from borrowers.

In this instance saving is discouraged and instead individuals choose to spend their money now rather than in the future.

And that’s what interest rates should be. But right now that’s not the function given to interest rates.

Instead, the mainstream economists and commentators have turned interest rates into a sideshow. A sideshow as pointless to the functioning of the market as Punxatawny Phil is to the weather forecast – “The RBA hasn’t seen its own shadow, interest rates will go up and the economy is booming. Spend and borrow now before it’s too late!”

So now, rather than interest rate rises being seen as an indicator for individuals to stop spending and to save, the mainstream commentary tells the masses that rising interest rates is proof the economy is strong and therefore you should carry on as you were – spend and borrow.

The sad point is, that due to the manipulation of interest rates and government propaganda, individuals are never given a break from the same message. The message is always to spend and borrow, regardless of where the interest rate is.

When interest rates were forced lower the message was that individuals must spend, spend, spend to prevent the economy from dying.

In a free market where interest rates aren’t manipulated, it would be a fair argument to say that individuals could spend when interest rates are low. Because in a free market the interest rate would have moved lower due to a lack of demand for borrowing.

But that wasn’t the case. Interest rates were forced lower by the RBA, but borrowing continued full steam. Lower interest rates should have indicated a lower demand for borrowing. When borrowing continued to surge interest rates in a free market would have moved higher, but they didn’t.

Only now is the RBA again manipulating rates, this time by moving them higher. But still the message is the same – borrow and spend.

As we’ve pointed out several times, it was a myth that Australians were deleveraging. They did no such thing.

Stats from the RBA show that borrowing for housing in particular has continued to soar. And it continued to soar because interest rates were held artificially low by the RBA. It’s why you had the instance of banks offering savings rates well above the cash rate, as the banks tried to encourage more depositors.

That’s pretty tough to do when everyone is borrowing at record low levels, encouraged by the idea that it’s a perfect time to borrow.

In a nutshell, interest rates aren’t what they used to be. The fact is, interest rates are little more than just another economic indicator. They’ve been manipulated beyond all recognition.

It’s no longer possible for you to use interest rates as a gauge of whether you should spend or save. No more than it’s possible for you to base your saving or spending decisions on whether the NAB Business Confidence survey shows a positive or a negative figure, or any one of the other sideshow indicators.

The message from the RBA – regardless of what the Governor tells Kochie, mainstream commentators and mainstream analysts is that you should spend and borrow whatever the rate of interest, because that’s the only way to ensure the Australian economy never dies.

So, in a way, Mr. Stewart from the REINSW is right when he says the market is, “not driven by interest rates.” It isn’t, but it should be. And for that you can ‘thank’ the RBA and the mainstream commentators.

It’s a very sad state of affairs indeed.

Cheers,
Kris.

{ 40 comments }

21 cb April 8, 2010 at 2:44 pm

Welcome back, Kevin B. And well done about sorting matters out for the kids. That is a hell of a difference to what they were looking at, and clearly the sensible way to go. Starting out overstretched, especially at a time like this, could have easily ended in disaster and tears for them.

Ah, since you have been away, you may not have seen the revelations abut the scandal at the CFTC the other week. See here, and more specifically the interviews with Andrew Maguire, Adrian Douglas and GATA. Note especially Christian’s admission that LBMA good delivery metal has been sold 100 times over!!! What this means is that for every $100 sold on the LBMA, they the exchange has $1 worth of metal on hand for delivery. The rest of the sales, 99% of them, are naked shorts. Talk about being on the edge …
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/King_World_News.html

22 cb April 8, 2010 at 2:51 pm
23 cb April 8, 2010 at 2:58 pm

Well, GB – if you listen to that last interview I just posted, it will more than confirm that you had reached the correct conclusion. Would be interested to know what you think, after you have listened to it. Cheers.

24 cb April 8, 2010 at 3:58 pm

SV – I do not fully understand the ins and outs of banking and lending, but what you are arguing sounds totally plausible to me. Given that we are unfettered by a gold standard, the regulators can tighten and loosen the screws on lending in more ways than one. If, for example, they wanted people to pay down debt, they could change lending and repayment rules accordingly, instead of crushing people and businesses with higher and higher rates, while the rest of the world goes in the opposite direction.

But, hey, it looks like Glenn Stevens must do God’s work, which, surprise, surprise, happens to have no bearing on what might be in the country’s best interests.

25 cb April 8, 2010 at 4:00 pm

PuntPal – my impression is that this latest round of madness with the FHOG it was not speculators who got in on the action on the buying side, but young families who simply want to have their own homes. And who can blame them?

26 cb April 8, 2010 at 4:07 pm

The Wolf – Exactly what are you referring to? What were those subtle reminders? I didn’t know that the banks were ordered to rob people’s safety deposit boxes of their gems and metals. Unbelievable. It just goes to show that not even safety deposit boxes are truly safe. If access to your metal has to be through someone else, you have to wonder whether you might not find a more satisfactory way of storing it. If you cannot access your metal in the middle of the night, or at any time you might want to, then your counterparty risk has not been completely eliminated.

27 GB April 8, 2010 at 4:32 pm

cb – will check it out later on

How does the RBA prick the bubble? I think its in two ways.
1. Removing the ability of people to take on more debt at higher prices to keep the bubble expanding
2. Removing the ability of people to make repayments

China is carrying out point 1. 78 SOE’s were just banned from property investment and add on the other measures and they are removing the ability to expand the bubble. All they need to do now is raise rates and bingo we have a winner.

In saying that its macro economics and it could take years or it could happen next monday – who knows?? If we could work out when these events would occur we could make some serious money.

http://www.whocrashedtheeconomy.com/blog/?p=879

28 cb April 8, 2010 at 4:45 pm
29 Nick April 8, 2010 at 7:37 pm

Peter Fraser @19….again I remind you that in Roman times there was no laptops or internet. If you fired an arrow it travelled a 100meters or so. Today’s “arrows” cross continents. In those days they didn’t know what lay at the other end of the Earth, I can travel it in one day. In those days they could see the enemy coming and have time to prepare. Today the enemy can bleed us dry in minutes, wiping out a lifetime of work and savings in seconds. I know the history, are you aware of the present?

30 GB April 8, 2010 at 10:58 pm

Cb – i had a read and a good laugh – i am not saying he is wrong but I don’t agree with him. I picked out some bits and then put my thoughts on it. You may have to re-read the parts to get what I am saying

1. ” Now we’re starting to get that picture with the release of the March economic data. And that picture is unambiguously strong.” – he couldn’t work out if china was booming because of the GFC and then the Great Recession and then the Lunar New year but he can look at one month’s worth of data and predict an eternal boom??? Based on what – he said all the other data was no good!!!

2. “That’s even stronger than it was during the 2005, 2007 period.” And he follows on to state the surplus has disappeared.
i) If China was booming like it was 2005 then why is the Harpex index (a measure of manufacturing exports) at never before seen lows instead of back around 2000 points?
http://www.harperpetersen.com/harpex/harpexRH.do?showData=true&period=7&&checkedIndexes=0&floatleft=0&floatright=0&exponleft=0&exponright=0&indicator=0
ii) If China is booming because the surplus has disappeared through imports then again why is the Harpex low and why is the Baltic dry index not even close to being where it was in 2007???
www . bloomberg . com /apps/cbuilder?ticker1=BDIY%3AIND

3. “income growth has been extraordinarily strong” just because you have strong income growth doesn’t mean a bubble has not formed and i like the way he compares it over 5 years so that it flattens out to a more respectable 23%. Write to him and get him to calculate it over the last year.

4. He says the unprecedented stimulus, which will be very very slowly removed is perfectly normal and there will be no side effects??? He hints at exactly what Kris said, i.e. “The economy will be fine because of the stimulus” and then when the stimulus is removed “The economy is fine because the government is removing the stimulus” The economy cant be fine with stimulus and without it – I take $5 on the economy is stuffed without stimulus

5. Geez I cant believe you made me read this – he swats away a sharp rise in inflation like I shoo a fly!!! He even claims that the 12% growth is because of domestic spending? If it is then god help China because the government certainly cant. Even the Americans can only manage a few percent through consumption and they are the biggest spenders in the world!! Now refer back to point 2 and the figures just don’t back up his statement. Also their massive GDP figure was completely due to their massive infrastructure spending which I believe was 9%, domestic consumption was 2%?? It wont continue into perpetuity

6. “You can’t generate an economic rent or a future income stream from it” and then you build the airport and you don’t have enough people travelling to cover the interest payments. Just remember they can afford it at super cheap interest rates but what happens when China raises interest rates to combat inflation – OH thats right inflation doesn’t matter….

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