Paul Krugman, the Princeton University economics professor, Nobel Prize winner, and regular New York Times op-ed contributor says, “Debt matters, but not that much.”
Not only is he off the reservation on this one, but he’s completely fallen off his high horse.
In the real world, debt actually matters a lot.
In a Houston Chronicle opinion piece last week, Krugman, riding his horse – whose name might as well be Liberal Conscience – trampled conservatives under the guise of an economics lesson that derided “deficit-worriers” for wrongly seeing “America as being like a family that took out too large a mortgage, and will have a hard time making the monthly payments.”
According to Krugman, that’s a bad analogy and “the way our politicians think about debt is all wrong, and exaggerates the problem’s size.”
Decide for yourself. Either debt matters a lot, or not that much…
Professor Krugman calls all the conversation in Washington about debt and deficits a “misplaced focus” and says all of the economic experts “on whom much of Congress relies have been repeatedly wrong about the short-run effects of budget deficits.”
He derides the fears that deficits will cause interest rates to soar by pointing out that they haven’t moved.
What he doesn’t say is that they haven’t moved because they’re not free to move.
The fact is that the U.S. Federal Reserve has corralled the free market in interest rates by knocking short-term rates to almost zero through successive open market operations and extraordinary quantitative easing measures.
Mr. Krugman mocks those waiting for rates to rise and notes that while they wait “rates have dropped to historical lows.”
Maybe what he doesn’t realize is that the Fed’s actions themselves have been nothing short of historical.
The crux of Mr. Krugman’s supposition that debt doesn’t matter much is based on his bashing of the popular analogy comparing the U.S’s debt problems to those of a mortgaged homeowner.
All of which Krugman claims is “a really bad analogy in at least two ways.”
He says, “First, families have to pay back their debt. Governments don’t – all they need to do is ensure that debt grows more slowly than their tax base.”
“Second,” he says, “an over-borrowed family owes the money to someone else; U.S. debt is, to a large extent, money we owe ourselves.”
He goes on to say that the debt from World War II was never repaid and didn’t make post-war America poorer.
In fact, the Professor points out, “the debt didn’t prevent the post-war generation from experiencing the biggest rise in incomes and living standards in our nation’s history.”
First off, the homeowner analogy is excellent–not irrelevant.
Mr. Krugman is wrong when he says that homeowners have to pay back their debt. The truth is they don’t have to.
Just like the government, as long as their creditworthiness is intact and money is available, at whatever cost, homeowners can refinance their mortgages over and over. That’s no different than how the government rolls over its own debts.
We saw this phenomenon play out in stark reality during the housing bubble.
Not only were homeowners refinancing their homes to take out money for consumption purposes, they leveraged themselves to buy more homes to multiply the wealth effect they were already experiencing.
In the case of the housing crash, borrowers were counting on rising property values to finance their expanding debts. That’s the same as what Krugman says governments should do: make sure debt expansion doesn’t outpace revenue growth, in this case taxes.
In the end, though, didn’t the bursting of the housing bubble prove that debt eventually matters?
To me, the housing bubble was a pretty darn good analogy as to what happens when mounting debts aren’t repaid. When it happens on a systemic basis, the entire economy suffers.
Doesn’t our nation’s expanding debt and deficit in the face of falling tax revenues and worse, a lower base, portend similar problems on an even larger scale?
Of course, Krugman has it all figured out.
We just have to grow our debt at a slower pace than our tax base grows. Who knew the answer was so simple…
We’ll just meet our expanding debt obligations by raising taxes faster. Perfect!
Second, to claim that U.S. debt doesn’t matter because we owe it to ourselves, and that homeowners’ debts do matter because they owe them to someone else, is absurd.
It is as if we are all going to say to the government, “It’s okay you took all of those taxes from us and spent them on stuff we’ll mostly never see, wipe the slate clean, we’re good. And all the stuff you promised us that you didn’t budget for, or worse, those set aside budgets you stole from, it’s okay, we’re good, we relieve you of what you owe us.” It’s just stupid.
Also, if you are a homeowner you are paying yourself too, in a sense.
While you are paying the mortgage to your bank you are also paying into a capital asset known as your home. You end up with something of fairly equal value, or more when home prices appreciate.
But we screwed that all up because debts do matter.
Too much debt leads to depreciation and deleveraging, which leads to lower demand, lower production, fewer jobs and a lower tax base.
The last piece of Krugman’s argument that our World War II debts were never repaid and that the huge deficits to pay for the war effort led to an extraordinary peacetime expansion is also frighteningly off the mark.
Of course, the savings bonds issued to fund the War have matured and been paid off. And the portion of our national debt brought on by the War was paid off a long time ago.
Just because the U.S. continues to add to its deficit and has to continually rollover debts doesn’t mean that we’re rolling over debts from 70 years ago.
Mr. Krugman’s own argument even addresses that. Rising incomes and our rapidly expanding economy in the post-war period generated a vastly rising tax base and led to prosperity.
But, that had nothing to do with deficits not mattering.
That had everything to do with soldiers returning home and being educated under the G.I. bill, being able to find work in revved-up manufacturing facilities, and the ensuing baby boom that would lead to a substantial increase in the population and tax base.
There are a lot of problems with Professor Krugman’s argument that deficits don’t matter.
But, the biggest problem I have is that instead of addressing deficits in an organic, holistic and objective way, Mr. Krugman addresses these important issues from his political perspective rather than a purely economic perspective.
Bashing conservatives who say deficits matter and spending cuts along with a smaller government are the best way to solve our long-term fiscal problems, and arguing that “responsible governments — that is governments that are willing to impose modestly higher taxes when the situation warrants it” are the answer to deficits that don’t matter much, is polarising at best and dangerous at worst.
What economists should be advocating is an apolitical approach to both our short-term and long-term problems.
We need smaller deficits over time and a smaller, more responsive government in the long-term.
In the short-term, we need real infrastructure spending, not quantitative easing for banks to increase their bonus pools. We need a massive investment in education and we need an industrial policy that promotes manufacturing and job growth – not the exportation of our capital to less developed countries where labour cost advantages fatten up public corporations that don’t pay enough U.S. taxes and hide the money from Uncle Sam in the loopholes Congress digs for them.
Both deficits and politics matter.
And if we don’t figure out how to bridle both we are all going to end up in the dirt being trampled by stampeding emerging economies everywhere.
This article originally appeared in the US edition of Money Morning (www.moneymorning.com)
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January 10th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Author,
May I suggest you re-read Mr. Krugman’s analysis of sovereign debt, America’s in this case? There appears to be either a comprehension problem on your part, or an unwillingness to reconcile this with one’s one view of how the world works. Your argument provides no evidence whatsoever to challenge Mr. Krugman’s position; while he continues to provide this in spades on his blog.
Don’t take this article seriously people….seriously.
January 10th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
“In the short-term, we need real infrastructure spending, not quantitative easing for banks to increase their bonus pools. ”
Agreed. Notice the conservatives here are against the NBN though – a very important infrastructure project that wil increase the productivity of the nation and will foster new innovations.
Also don’t remember the Liberals kicking up a massive stink when taxpayers were used to guarantee the Banks. Oh I forgot, they are best mates with the Bankers. (Note hockey is now in a bind since he is best mates with the Bankers but is courting the bogan vote with his populist bank bashing)
It seems that Krugman is not the only one who puts politics before rational thought. Carry on.
January 10th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Author (Kris) – good article.
Wits End – can you give a few examples of Mr K’s evidence (in spades). 3 would be plenty. I’m genuinely interested. See my next point about why we need only productive debt.
Steve – productive NBN? Well need to measure that one overall. If private enterprise won’t fund it, that should say a lot. However if I’m more productive with an NBN then I either reach more and sell to more people with less cost to my business or I sell the same amount with less cost.
I’d say its the latter. So potentially less people are hired and less business travel and hotel usage would help with real time networks and virtual meetings.
Sometimes I think its like building a new sports stadium supported by govt funding. In that case we all contribute so that the few can benefit (users, administrators and tv stations and their viewers). But those that don’t care for sport pay higher taxes to support sport. Not the best example but you get the point.
If we build infrastructure at any cost then we risk inflation and unsustainable borrowing. Surely we can be late adopters. We’re only 22-23m nation.
January 10th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Good points M&M -
The way I see it is that there are a lot of lobby / pressure groups all arguing for sports stadiums, NBN, roads, health, education etc etc.
All good and worthy purposes no doubt.
The question I have is how do we pay for them. $20m here $500m there but we don’t want to pay more taxes, levies or tolls. Something has to give!
January 10th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
$50 billion for the NBN and counting. I hate predictions but I’m thinking $75billion when its all said and done. With lots of rich consultants and contractors in their beachside homes etc
January 11th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Wits End, simply refuses to see the obvious. With people like this no matter how much one shows them, they still won’t “see”. Krugman seems to just make things up, this is well known.
January 11th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
US Debt does matter. Not only within US but globally. When US sneezes, the whole world gets the cold as they say. Good article.
January 11th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Recently read an article by Michael Yardney where he gave an interesting analysis of the American debt situation.
U.S. tax revenue…….. $2,170,000,000,000
Federal budget……….. $3,820,000,000,000
New debt………………. $1,650,000,000,000
National debt………… $14,271,000,000,000
Recent budget cuts…. $38,500,000,000
Now lets remove 8 zeros and pretend this is a household budget
Annual family income….. $21,700
Family expenditure……… $38,200
New credit card debt……. $16,500
Balance on credit card…..$142,710
Total budget cuts………… $385
Puts things in perspective doesnt it ?
January 11th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
The problem with Krugman and his ilk…specifically Krugman is that having been lauded and feted as the saviors of the western world post 2007/2008 with their QE ad infinitum solution… they never fully grasped that the problem was debt… And they never understood that there was never going to be any recovery until a significant deleveraging took effect…
Not only was there no deleveraging… There was active wilful and thoroughly negligent encouragement to avoid deleveraging… Specifically switching off mark to market…
Now it is evident that we are experiencing the “justification” phase … Akin to the “move along move along there is nothing to see here” …
The cold hard reality is that it ultimately doesn’t matter… Alan Greenspan set the bar extremely high with his “all glory but no responsibility” belief…
January 11th, 2012 at 11:17 pm
All very interesting, I especially like Roger’s analysis (via Yardley).
I really believe these economists (Krugman etc), are of the opinion that everyone is like them ie prudent and responsible people who earn more than they spend and keep their personal debts and spending under control.
Unfortunately, the real world (and 90% of the population) is not as clever as Mr Krugman and his friends.
There are 60 year olds who, after working and paying their share of taxes for over 40 years, are sold a fancy financial product by a slick investment banker/salesman, only to see their superannuation disappear before their eyes. Others suffered the same fate after they were coerced into mortgaging the family home of 30 years in a bid to achieve the financial security they “deserved”.
The products these investment banker/salesman were selling were highly leveraged and failed miserably – try telling them that the debt “doesn’t matter”.
Of course the investment banker/salesman earned his bonus, bought his BMW and sailed off into the sunset on his yacht.
January 13th, 2012 at 10:29 am
Sorry Wits End, not enough people on here rely on the mainstream media it appears.
Your wits ran out before you reached the end, seriously!